Wednesday, June 5, 2013

Food for thought - Denmark’s Muslin dilemma.

Australians, especially our politicians, should read and should learn from the article and links below. We in Australia are facing the same problems as many European countries are facing right now. Australia is a country of migrants; they have come here after the Second World War from many European countries with diverse cultures and different religions. They have all assimilated and integrated into the Australian way of life. However in recent years we have had an influx of Muslim migrants arriving here, some legally and some otherwise, who seem to have difficulty emulating other migrants mentioned above. European countries have learnt a lesson about Muslim immigration the hard why and are now grappling with a great dilemma. All find it difficult to deal with it, and they find that like an egg, it can’t be unscrambled.

A lot of our “illegal” boat arrivals, if not all of them, will not find jobs in this country and will be on welfare and a burden on the Australian taxpayer. The Federal government has wasted billions of dollars on those people so far and the waste of money is continuing on a daily basis.

Rauf Baker writes about Europe’s Islam Dilemma. Muslim migrants, numbering almost 54 million, have failed to assimilate or find common ground with their new societies.
Durie: Islamophobia comes to Canberra.
For those of you that live in Australia and New Zealand, this may come as a surprise. But what we have read about England Europe and America is now here.
German view on Islam. Click here.
Here is a must see video to what is happening in France. Click here.

It is getting serious now. It is time to stand up and be counted. Do you or do you not want Islam to dominate Australia? If
you do nothing and don't contact your Member of Parliament, then don't complain when it all 'hits the fan.' Islam is here - now! Islam is incompatible with true Democracy. So if you like Australia the way it is; then do something today. Send your Member an e-mail protesting about what happened in Canberra, or better still talk to your MP as e-mails are too easily ignored and deleted. One to one is the way to go. Point out the inconsistency. Become active and educated about Islam.  Our respective federal politicians seem to be oblivious to the Muslim problem other countries have and, undoubtedly we will face the same problems as soon as our Muslim numbers become larger. Unfortunately, our federal MPs are at present in election mode and will be reluctant to say anything about Muslims, as it is “vote gathering time” for them. But don’t be discouraged - keep at them.

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Salute the Danish Flag - it's a Symbol of  Western Freedom.
By Susan MacAllen
 In 1978-9 I was living and studying in Denmark. But in 1978 - even in Copenhagen, one didn't see Muslim immigrants.

The Danish population embraced visitors,
celebrated the exotic, and went out of its way to protect each of its citizens. It was proud of its new brand of socialist liberalism one in development since the conservatives had lost power in 1929 - a system where no worker had to struggle to survive, where one ultimately could count upon the state as in, perhaps, no other western nation at the time. The rest of Europe saw the Scandinavians as free-thinking, progressive and infinitely generous in their welfare policies. Denmark boasted low crime rates, devotion to the environment, a superior educational system and a history of humanitarianism.

Denmark was also most generous in its immigration policies
- it offered the best welcome in Europe to the new immigrant: generous welfare payments from first arrival plus additional perks in transportation, housing and education. It was determined to set a world example for inclusiveness and multiculturalism.  How could it have predicted that one day in 2005 a series of political cartoons in a newspaper would spark violence that would leave dozens dead in  the streets - all because its commitment to multiculturalism would come back  to bite?

By the 1990's the growing urban Muslim population was obvious - and   its unwillingness to integrate into Danish society was obvious.
  Years of immigrants had settled into Muslim-exclusive enclaves. As the Muslim leadership became more vocal about what they considered the decadence of Denmark’s liberal way of life, the Danes - once so welcoming - began to feel slighted. Many Danes had begun to see Islam as incompatible with their long-standing values: belief in personal liberty and free speech, inequality for women, intolerance for other ethnic groups, and a deep pride  in Danish heritage and history.

An article by Daniel Pipes and Lars  Hedegaard, in which they forecasted, accurately, that the growing immigrant problem in Denmark would explode. In the article they reported: 'Muslim immigrants constitute 5 percent of the population but consume upwards of 40 percent of the welfare spending.''Muslims are only 4 percent of Denmark's 5.4 million people but make  up a majority of the country's convicted rapists, an especially combustible issue given that practically all the female victims are non-Muslim. Similar, if lesser, disproportions are found in other crimes.' 'Over time, as Muslim immigrants increase in numbers, they wish less  to mix with the indigenous population.  A recent survey finds that only 5 percent of young Muslim immigrants would readily marry a Dane.'

'Forced marriages - promising a newborn daughter in Denmark to a male cousin in the home country, then compelling her to marry him, sometimes on pain of death - are (is) one problem.' 'Muslim leaders openly declare their goal of introducing Islamic law once Denmark’s Muslim population grows large enough - a not-that-remote prospect. If present trends persist, one sociologist estimates, every third inhabitant of Denmark in 40 years will be Muslim.' It is easy to understand why a growing number of Danes would feel that Muslim immigrants show little respect for Danish values and laws.
 
An example is the phenomenon common to other European countries and   Canada: some Muslims in Denmark who opted to leave the Muslim faith have been murdered in the name of Islam, while others hide in fear for their lives. Jews are also threatened and harassed openly by Muslim leaders in Denmark, a country where once Christian citizens worked to smuggle out nearly all of their 7,000 Jews by night to Sweden - before the Nazis could invade. I think of my Danish friend Elsa - who, as a teenager, had dreaded crossing the street to the bakery every morning under the eyes of occupying Nazi soldiers - and I wonder what she would say today.

In 2001, Denmark elected the most conservative government in some 70 years - one that had some decidedly non-generous ideas about liberal unfettered immigration. Today, Denmark has the strictest immigration policies in Europe. (Its effort to protect itself has been met with accusations of  'racism' by liberal media across Europe - even as other governments struggle to right the social problems wrought by years of too-lax immigration.)

If you wish to become Danish, you must attend three years of language classes. You must pass a test on Denmark’s history, culture, and a Danish language test.
You must live in Denmark for 7 years before applying for citizenship. You must demonstrate intent to work, and have a job waiting. If you wish  to bring a spouse into Denmark, you must both be over 24 years of age, and  you won't find it so easy anymore to move your friends and family to   Denmark with you.

You will not be allowed to build a mosque in Copenhagen.
Although your children have a choice of some 30 Arabic culture and language schools in Denmark, they will be strongly encouraged to assimilate to Danish society   in ways that past immigrants weren't.

In 2006, the Danish minister for employment, Claus Hjort Frederiksen,  spoke publicly of the burden of Muslim immigrants on the Danish welfare  system, and it was horrifying: the government's welfare committee had calculated that if immigration from Third World countries were blocked, 75  percent of the cuts needed to sustain the huge welfare system in coming decades would be unnecessary. In other words, the welfare system, as it existed, was being exploited by immigrants to the point of eventually bankrupting the government. 'We are simply forced to adopt a new policy on immigration.'  'The calculations of the welfare committee are terrifying and show how unsuccessful the integration of immigrants has been up to now,' he said.

A large thorn in the side of Denmark’s imams is the Minister of Immigration and Integration, Rikke Hvilshoj. She makes no bones about the new policy toward immigration, 'The number of foreigners coming to the  country makes a difference,' Hvilshoj says, 'There is an inverse correlation between how many come here and how well we can receive the foreigners that  come.' And, on Muslim immigrants needing to demonstrate a willingness to blend in. 'In my view, Denmark should be a country with room for different cultures and religions. Some values, however, are more important than others. We refuse to question democracy, equal rights, and freedom of speech.'

Hvilshoj has paid a price for her show of backbone.
Perhaps to test her resolve, the leading radical imam in Denmark, Ahmed Abdel Rahman Abu  Laban, demanded that the government pay blood money to the family of a  Muslim who was murdered in a suburb of Copenhagen, stating that the family's  thirst for revenge could be thwarted for money. When Hvilshoj dismissed his demand, he argued that in Muslim culture the payment of retribution money  was common, to which Hvilshoj replied that what is done in a Muslim country  is not necessarily what is done in Denmark.

The Muslim reply came soon after: her house was torched while she, her husband and children slept. All managed to escape unharmed, but she and her family were moved to a secret location and she and other ministers were assigned bodyguards for the first time - in a country where such murderous violence was once so scarce. Her government has slid to the right, and her borders have tightened. Many believe that what happens in the next decade will determine whether Denmark survives as a bastion of good living, humane thinking and social responsibility, or whether it becomes a nation at civil war with supporters of Sharia law.

And meanwhile, Canadians clamour for stricter immigration policies, and demand an end to state welfare programs that allow many immigrants to live on the public dole. As we in Canada look at the enclaves of Muslims amongst us, and see those who enter our shores too easily, dare live on our taxes, yet refuse to embrace our culture, respect our traditions, participate in our legal system, obey our laws, speak our language, and appreciate our history.  We would do well to look to Denmark, and say a prayer for her future and for our own.
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My thought for today. - Werner
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9 comments:

Sonja Hardy said...

Certainly food for thought. I remember many, many years ago reading a very short news article that said fundamentalist Islam was the greatest threat to world peace. That was long before we had ‘boat people’ or wars in the middle east – but it intrigued me at the time. Now of course, it has proven to be very prophetic. I wish I could remember who wrote it, or where I read it.

And where are the 'moderate' Muslims on this topic? Do they ever speak out, or are they too frightened? After all, their way of life will be affected too, if the radical element takes over. And that may happen even if immigration is dramatically slowed down, because the Muslim birth rate seems to be well above that of other cultures.

John Babet said...

Immigration Policy should not discriminate by religion ... a yearly quota of immigrants should be set based on Australias needs incl a percentage of refugees ... boatpeople and other queue jumpers should be immediately returned to their homeland. Miscegenation (as in Denmark) is a deliberate strategy used by negative forces to undermine sovereign nations.

True Blue Aussie said...

This is definitely food for thought. The slaying of an English soldier in London by a Muslim terrorist should be a wake-up call for the non-Islamic countries. You hit the nail on the head in your introduction by stating that “Islam is incompatible with true Democracy”.

Of course, not all Muslims are terrorists, but all the terrorists are Muslims. Islamic countries are the worst offenders when it comes to human rights. In addition, the Sunnis and the Shiites hate and fight each other and call Islam a religion of peace, what a joke. Congratulation, Werner, this is an excellent posting.

Barbette said...

Good on you for pushing forward on this world-wide Muslim dilemma. As always, I am impressed by your diligent research on the subjects you post on your blog site. Keep up the good work.

Trevor and June said...

Thank you for this worrisome “insight” about Muslim migrants and their behaviour in predominantly Christian countries. It is obvious that their attitude is: “It is our way, or no way.” What amazes me that our politicians have blinkers on or don’t have the guts to speak out or do something about it. We are an old people, but I worry about our children’s future in this lovely country of Australia that we call our home.

Gaye said...

There are those who try to tell us that Allah and God are the same thing so lets look at what the Quran and the Bible says about it..
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One of the most compact, penetrating discourses on love is found in I John 4:7-21. In just these 14 verses the word is used 27 times. The central basis for men to love one another is rooted in the nature of God Himself. "God is love." What is accepted as commonplace in Christianity is a dim reflection in the Quran.

Quran:8:12 "I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle."

Ishaq:326 "Allah said, 'No Prophet before Muhammad took booty from his enemy nor prisoners for ransom.' Muhammad said, 'I was made victorious with terror. The earth was made a place for me to clean. I was given the most powerful words. Booty was made lawful for me. I was given the power to intercede. These five privileges were awarded to no prophet before me.' This does not sound like a god of love, it is more like a god of war and hate.

In Christianity, God sent his son to die for us so that we could be saved, but with Islam, Allah sends his sons to die for him. Bukhari:V4B52N220 "Allah's Apostle said, 'I have been made victorious with terror.'"

Qur'an:8:12 "I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle."

Qur'an:8:67 "It is not fitting for any prophet to have prisoners until he has made a great slaughter in the land."

Ishaq:327 "Allah said, 'A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.'"Bukhari:V5B59N516 "When Allah's Apostle fought or raided people we raised our voices saying, 'Allahu-Akbar! Allahu-Akbar! None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.'"

DOES THIS ABOVE NOT SAY ENOUGH, and this is just the tip of the iceberg. This sounds more like a war cult. Mohammad went on raid after raid and sent others out on up to 100 raids in about 10 years before he died.Yes I am islamophobic, I am also homophobic, rapeophobic, murderophobic, smokeophobic etc anything that kills I am ophobic about. It is time we woke up before our babies are the ones who have to fight for our stupidity of doing nothing.

Harry M said...

I strongly believe that Muslims are about to take over our country as of others this week government of ours has to get some balls and do something about it NOW or it will be too late they are breading like flies around a dead PIG stop the boats and weed out thr towel heads that are causing all this trouble if they dont like it stiff titty Harry M

John P. Australian Serviceman. Ret. said...

I have never been able to understand the mindset of Muslims. As a Serviceman, the concept of being killed in the line of duty is accepted as part of the deal. But the idea of seeking death, not as something that could happen to you, but as means of going straight to the Arms of Allah (with, of course, the obligatory 12 virgins) is something
so weird, I (and I think any Australian serviceman) could not begin to understand it.

I often wonder why Muslims migrate to Australia, for a better life perhaps for themselves and their families, doesn't happen, and can't happen when they are forbidden to assimilate with their host country.

Intermarriage? Are you kidding? Kids allowed to play 'footy' with our kids? That will be the day. Go for a BBQ with an Australian family? Sorry wrong food! Go to the beach for a swim? All those naked (unsegregated) women? Learn the value of; Mateship? Forget it. To extend the hand of friendship, and offer refuge from tyranny is one thing, but to have your lifestyle and values rejected is something else.

Oh, and bye the way, our legal system is all wrong! We should have Sharia law If the political idiots who thought importing boat loads of Islamic voters would help keep them in power was a good idea, wait until the day comes when they, or their kids, in the not too distant future, have to face the fact, that it is not our country any more. It will happen.

I have only one request. Please let me die as an Australian in the Australia I love and have served. I weep for my kids and their kids..

Anthony said...

I’m also an ex serviceman and agree with John P. I have served in Iraq and Afghanistan and have first hand experience with Islamic culture and their religion. And, I’m also worried that we will get more problems in Australia as the Muslim numbers increase.

This religion has so many hate preachers, which do not preach peace. It is strange that the media never tells us of problems other countries are having.
Now! There has been over 22901 terrorist attacks from this religion of peace since September 11,most have been caught, so if they have been caught, where are all the people coming from to cause these horrendous number of attacks and how come no other religion is doing this?
What is in their holy book that causes them to want to continuously kill infidels?
What is in their holy books that so many hundreds of clerics/imams preach hate of infidels?
What is in their holy book that so many gang rape our girls in every country that they go to?
What is in their holy book that causes them to riot, burn, kill when we displease them etc, could this be why?

90%-95% of all the conflicts on this planet today involve Muslims fighting non-Muslims or each other!